Orchestral Excerpts

Below are recordings of prominent oboe solos in the orchestral repertoire performed by Marcel Tabuteau. Excerpts of 20 seconds or more (rather than shorter episodes) qualify for inclusion and are being added periodically.

Marcel Tabuteau Excerpts
Original Release Format: CD (from 78 RPMs)
Label: Boston Records
Catalog #: 1021
Release Date: 01/01/2001
Conductor: Leopold Stokowski
Orchestra: Philadelphia Orchestra

Johannes Brahms: Concerto for Violin in D Major, Op. 77 (2nd movement)*
Original Release Format: 78 RPM set
Label: Columbia Masterworks
Catalog #: MM-603
Year Recorded: 1945
Soloist: Joseph Szigeti
Conductor: Eugene Ormandy
Orchestra: Philadelphia Orchestra

*Perhaps the most celebrated oboe solo in the symphonic repertoire. One wonders what Tabuteau’s retort would have been to Pablo de Sarasate’s reported remark: “I have no wish to stand there, violin in hand, listening to the oboe playing the only tune in the entire work.”(!) Sarasate refused to perform it.

Samuel Barber: Violin Concerto, Op. 14 (2nd Movement)*
Original Release Format: CD of Radio Broadcast
Label: West Hill Radio Archives
Catalog #: 6039
Year Recorded: 1941
Soloist: Albert Spalding
Conductor: Eugene Ormandy
Orchestra: Philadelphia Orchestra

*In the opinion of Barbara Heyman, Samuel Barber’s renowned biographer, and Marc Mostovoy, a Tabuteau student and cognoscente on the genesis of the Barber Violin Concerto, the second movement opening oboe solo was most likely written with the Brahms Violin Concerto and Marcel Tabuteau in mind. Barber greatly admired both the composer and oboist; he attended many of Tabuteau’s wind classes at Curtis. The premier was to be given by the Philadelphia Orchestra where Tabuteau, as principal oboist, often performed the Brahms solo, and where Barber most probably heard it. The confluence of all these factors points heavily towards that conclusion.

Johann Sebastian Bach: Fugue in G Minor, BWV 578 (Stokowski Transcription)
Original Release Format: 78 RPM
Label: Victor
Catalog #: 7437
Year Recorded: 1931
Conductor: Leopold Stokowski
Orchestra: Philadelphia Orchestra

Johann Sebastian Bach: Toccata, Adagio and Fugue in C major (Arr. Weiner)
Tape of Radio Broadcast (CBS)
Year Recorded: 1948
Conductor: Alexander Hillsberg
Orchestra: Philadelphia Orchestra

Ludwig van Beethoven: Symphony No. 3 “Eroica” in E♭ Major, Op. 55 (2nd movement)
Tape of Radio Broadcast (CBS)
Year Recorded: 1944
Conductor: Bruno Walter
Orchestra: Philadelphia Orchestra

Ludwig van Beethoven: Symphony No. 7 in A Major, Op. 92 (1st movement)
Original Release Format: 78 RPM set
Label: Victor
Catalog #: M-17
Year Recorded: 1927
Conductor: Leopold Stokowski
Orchestra: Philadelphia Orchestra

Ludwig van Beethoven: Symphony No. 7 in A Major, Op. 92 (1st movement)
Original Release Format: 78 RPM set
Label: Columbia
Catalog #: M/MM-557
Year Recorded: 1944
Conductor: Eugene Ormandy
Orchestra: Philadelphia Orchestra

Georges Bizet: Carmen Suite (from act 1 scene 5)
Original Release Format: 78 RPM
Label: Victor
Catalog #: 1356
Year Recorded: 1927
Conductor: Leopold Stokowski
Orchestra: Philadelphia Orchestra

Johannes Brahms: Symphony No. 1 in C Minor, Op. 68 (1st movement)
Original Release Format: 78 RPM set
Label: Victor
Catalog #: M-15
Year Recorded: 1927
Conductor: Leopold Stokowski
Orchestra: Philadelphia Orchestra

Johannes Brahms: Symphony No. 1 in C Minor, Op. 68 (1st movement)
Original Release Format: 78 RPM set
Label: Victor
Catalog #: M-301
Year Recorded: 1935
Conductor: Leopold Stokowski
Orchestra: Philadelphia Orchestra

Johannes Brahms: Symphony No. 1 in C Minor, Op. 68 (1st movement)
Original Release Format: 45 RPM set
Label: Columbia
Catalog #: A-1089
Year Recorded: 1950
Conductor: Eugene Ormandy
Orchestra: Philadelphia Orchestra

Johannes Brahms: Symphony No. 1 in C Minor, Op. 68 (2nd movement)
Original Release Format: 78 RPM set
Label: Victor
Catalog #: M-15
Year Recorded: 1927
Conductor: Leopold Stokowski
Orchestra: Philadelphia Orchestra

Johannes Brahms: Symphony No. 1 in C Minor, Op. 68 (2nd movement)
Original Release Format: 78 RPM set
Label: Victor
Catalog #: M-301
Year Recorded: 1935
Conductor: Leopold Stokowski
Orchestra: Philadelphia Orchestra

Johannes Brahms: Symphony No. 1 in C Minor, Op. 68 (2nd movement)
Original Release Format: 45 RPM set
Label: Columbia
Catalog #: A-1089
Year Recorded: 1950
Conductor: Eugene Ormandy
Orchestra: Philadelphia Orchestra

Pablo Casals: Sardana “Sant Marti del Canigo”
Original Release Format: LP
Label: Columbia
Catalog #: ML 4926
Year Recorded: 1950
Conductor: Pablo Casals
Orchestra: Prades Festival Orchestra

Claude Debussy: Images pour orchestre; No. 2 Iberia
Original Release Format: LP (not issued on 78 RPM)
Label: RCA
Catalog #: CRM5-1900
Year Recorded: 1941
Conductor: Arturo Toscanini
Orchestra: Philadelphia Orchestra

Claude Debussy: Images pour orchestre; No. 2 Iberia
Original Release Format: LP
Label: Columbia
Catalog #: ML-4434
Year Recorded: 1951
Conductor: Eugene Ormandy
Orchestra: Philadelphia Orchestra

Claude Debussy: Prélude à l’après-midi d’un faune
Original Release Format: 78 RPM
Label: Victor
Catalog #: 6775 B
Year Recorded: 1924
Conductor: Leopold Stokowski
Orchestra: Philadelphia Orchestra

Claude Debussy: Prélude à l’après-midi d’un faune
Original Release Format: 78 RPM
Label: Victor
Catalog #: 6696
Year Recorded: 1927
Conductor: Leopold Stokowski
Orchestra: Philadelphia Orchestra

Claude Debussy: Prélude à l’après-midi d’un faune
Original Release Format: CD (not released on 78 RPM)
Label: Biddulph
Catalog #: WHL-013
Year Recorded: 1940 (March)
Conductor: Leopold Stokowski
Orchestra: Philadelphia Orchestra [Coming]

Claude Debussy: Prélude à l’après-midi d’un faune
Original Release Format: 78 RPM
Label: Victor
Catalog #: 17700
Year Recorded: 1940 (December)
Conductor: Leopold Stokowski
Orchestra: Philadelphia Orchestra

Henry Eichheim: Japanese Nocturne
Original Release Format: 78 RPM
Label: Victor
Catalog #: 7260
Year Recorded: 1929
Conductor: Leopold Stokowski
Orchestra: Philadelphia Orchestra

George Frederick Handel: Water Music Suite
Original Release Format: 78 RPM
Label: Victor
Catalog #: 8551
Year Recorded: 1934
Conductor: Leopold Stokowski
Orchestra: Philadelphia Orchestra

Victor Herbert: Irish Rhapsody
Original Release Format: 45 RPM set
Label: Columbia
Catalog #: A-1030
Year Recorded: 1952
Conductor: Eugene Ormandy
Orchestra: Philadelphia Orchestra ‘Pops’

Mikhail Ippolitov-Ivanov: Caucasian Sketches, Op. 10 (In the Village)
Original Release Format: 78 RPM
Label: Victor
Catalog #: 6514
Year Recorded: 1925
Conductor: Leopold Stokowski
Orchestra: Philadelphia Orchestra

Mikhail Ippolitov-Ivanov: Caucasian Sketches, Op. 10 (Procession of the Sardar)
Original Release Format: 78 RPM
Label: Victor
Catalog #: 66106
Year Recorded: 1922
Conductor: Leopold Stokowski
Orchestra: Philadelphia Orchestra

Mikhail Ippolitov-Ivanov: Caucasian Sketches, Op. 10 (Procession of the Sardar)
Original Release Format: 78 RPM
Label: Victor
Catalog #: 1335
Year Recorded: 1927
Conductor: Leopold Stokowski
Orchestra: Philadelphia Orchestra

Franz Liszt: Les Preludes
Original Release Format: 78 RPM set
Label: Victor
Catalog #: M/DM-453
Year Recorded: 1937
Conductor: Eugene Ormandy
Orchestra: Philadelphia Orchestra

Franz Liszt: Les Preludes
Original Release Format: 78 RPM set
Label: Columbia
Catalog #: MX-321
Year Recorded: 1946
Conductor: Eugene Ormandy
Orchestra: Philadelphia Orchestra

Harl McDonald: Saga of the Mississippi
Tape of Radio Broadcast (CBS)
Year Recorded: 1944
Conductor: Eugene Ormandy
Orchestra: Philadelphia Orchestra

Harl McDonald: Concerto for Violin (2nd movement)
Tape of Radio Broadcast (CBS)
Year Recorded: 1945
Soloist: Alexander Hilsberg
Conductor: Eugene Ormandy
Orchestra: Philadelphia Orchestra

Harl McDonald: Concerto for Violin (2nd movement)
Tape of Radio Broadcast (CBS)
Year Recorded: 1947
Soloist: Alexander Hilsberg
Conductor: Eugene Ormandy
Orchestra: Philadelphia Orchestra

Modest Mussorgsky: Khovanshchina–Prelude to Act IV (revised by Rimsky-Korsakov) 
Original Release Format: 78 RPM
Label: Victor
Catalog #: 74803
Year Recorded: 1922
Conductor: Leopold Stokowski
Orchestra: Philadelphia Orchestra

Modest Mussorgsky: Khovanshchina–Prelude to Act IV (arr. Stokowski)
Label: Victor
Catalog #: 6775 B
Year Recorded: 1927
Conductor: Leopold Stokowski
Orchestra: Philadelphia Orchestra

Modest Mussorgsky: Night on Bald Mountain (arr. Stokowski)
Original Release Format: 78 RPM set
Label: Victor
Catalog #: 17900
Year Recorded: 1940
Conductor: Leopold Stokowski
Orchestra: Philadelphia Orchestra

Sergei Rachmaninov: Symphony No. 1 in D minor, Op. 13 (1st movement)
Tape of Radio Broadcast
Year Recorded: 1948
Conductor: Eugene Ormandy
Orchestra: Philadelphia Orchestra

Nikolai Rimsky-Korsakov: Schéhérazade, Op. 35 (2nd movement)
Original Release Format: 78 RPM set
Label: Victor
Catalog #: M-23
Year Recorded: 1927
Conductor: Leopold Stokowski
Orchestra: Philadelphia Orchestra

Nikolai Rimsky-Korsakov: Schéhérazade, Op. 35 (2nd movement)
Original Release Format: 78 RPM set
Label: Victor
Catalog #: M-269
Year Recorded: 1934
Conductor: Leopold Stokowski
Orchestra: Philadelphia Orchestra

Nikolai Rimsky-Korsakov: Schéhérazade, Op. 35 (2nd movement)
Original Release Format: 78 RPM set
Label: Columbia
Catalog #: MM-772
Year Recorded: 1947
Conductor: Eugene Ormandy
Orchestra: Philadelphia Orchestra

Nikolai Rimsky-Korsakov: Schéhérazade, Op. 35 (2nd movement)
Original Release Format: 45 RPM set
Label: Columbia
Catalog #: A-1103
Year Recorded: 1953
Conductor: Eugene Ormandy
Orchestra: Philadelphia Orchestra

Camille Saint Saëns: Samson et Dalila, Op 47 (Bacchanale)
Original Release Format: 78 RPM
Label: Victor
Catalog #: 6241
Year Recorded: 1920
Conductor: Leopold Stokowski
Orchestra: Philadelphia Orchestra

Camille Saint Saëns: Samson et Dalila, Op 47 (Bacchanale)
Original Release Format: 78 RPM
Label: Victor
Catalog #: 6823
Year Recorded: 1927
Conductor: Leopold Stokowski
Orchestra: Philadelphia Orchestra

Erik Satie: Gymnopedies No. 1
Original Release Format: 78 RPM
Label: Victor
Catalog #: 1965
Year Recorded: 1937
Conductor: Leopold Stokowski
Orchestra: Philadelphia Orchestra

Erik Satie: Gymnopedies No. 3
Original Release Format: 78 RPM
Label: Victor
Catalog #: 1965
Year Recorded: 1937
Conductor: Leopold Stokowski
Orchestra: Philadelphia Orchestra

Franz Schubert: Symphony No. 8 in B Minor, D 759 “Unfinished” (2nd movement)
Original Release Format: 78 RPM set
Label: Victor
Catalog #: 6459/61
Year Recorded: 1924
Conductor: Leopold Stokowski
Orchestra: Philadelphia Orchestra

Franz Schubert: Symphony No. 8 in B Minor, D 759 “Unfinished” (2nd movement)
Original Release Format: 78 RPM set
Label: Victor
Catalog #: 6663/65
Year Recorded: 1927
Conductor: Leopold Stokowski
Orchestra: Philadelphia Orchestra

Franz Schubert: Symphony No. 8 in B Minor, D 759 “Unfinished” (2nd movement)
Original Release Format: 78 RPM set
Label: World’s Greatest Music
Catalog #: SR-1/3
Year Recorded: 1938
Conductor: (Eugene Ormandy)
Orchestra: (Philadelphia Orchestra)

Franz Schubert: Symphony No. 8 in B Minor, D 759 “Unfinished” (2nd movement)
Original Release Format: 78 RPM set
Label: Columbia
Catalog #: 12639/41-D
Year Recorded: 1947
Conductor: Bruno Walter
Orchestra: Philadelphia Orchestra

Franz Schubert: Symphony No. 9 in C Major, D 944 “Great” (2nd movement)
Original Release Format: LP (not issued on 78 RPM)
Label: Victor
Catalog #: LD-2663
Year Recorded: 1941
Conductor: Arturo Toscanini
Orchestra: Philadelphia Orchestra

Franz Schubert: Symphony No. 9 in C Major, D 944 “Great” (2nd movement)
Tape of Radio Broadcast (CBS)
Year Recorded: 1948
Conductor: George Szell
Orchestra: Philadelphia Orchestra

Robert Schumann: Piano Concerto in A Minor, Op. 54 (1st movement)
Original Release Format: 78 RPM set
Label: Columbia
Catalog #: M/MM-734
Year Recorded: 1946
Soloist: Rudolf Serkin
Conductor: Eugene Ormandy
Orchestra: Philadelphia Orchestra

Robert Schumann: Symphony No. 2 in C Major, Op. 61 (3rd movement)
Original Release Format: 78 RPM set
Label: Victor
Catalog #: M-448
Year Recorded: 1936
Conductor: Eugene Ormandy
Orchestra: Philadelphia Orchestra

Robert Schumann: Symphony No. 2 in C Major, Op. 61 (3rd movement)
Tape of Radio Broadcast (CBS)
Year Recorded: 1948
Conductor: Alexander Hillsberg
Orchestra: Philadelphia Orchestra

Dmitri Shostakovich: Symphony No. 1 in F Minor, Op. 10 (3rd movement)
Original Release Format: 78 RPM set
Label: Victor
Catalog #: M-192
Year Recorded: 1933
Conductor: Leopold Stokowski
Orchestra: Philadelphia Orchestra

Dmitri Shostakovich: Symphony No. 5 in D Minor, Op. 47 (3rd Movement)
Original Release Format: 78 RPM set
Label: Victor
Catalog #: 15737/42
Year Recorded: 1939
Conductor: Leopold Stokowski
Orchestra: Philadelphia Orchestra

Dmitri Shostakovich: Symphony No. 5 in D Minor, Op. 47 (3rd Movement)
Tape of Radio Broadcast (CBS)
Year Recorded: 1947
Conductor: Eugene Ormandy
Orchestra: Philadelphia Orchestra

Johann Strauss der Jüngere: Die Fledermaus Overture
Original Release Format: LP
Label: Columbia
Catalog #: M/MX-311
Year Recorded: 1947
Conductor: Eugene Ormandy
Orchestra: Philadelphia Orchestra

Johann Strauss der Jüngere: Die Fledermaus Overture
Original Release Format: LP
Label: Columbia
Catalog #: ML-4686
Year Recorded: 1952
Conductor: Eugene Ormandy
Orchestra: Philadelphia Orchestra

Johann Strauss der Jüngere: Gypsy Baron Overture
Original Release Format: 78 RPM
Label: Columbia
Catalog #: M/MX-311
Year Recorded: 1947
Conductor: Eugene Ormandy
Orchestra: Philadelphia Orchestra

Richard Strauss: Der Rosenkavalier Suite
Original Release Format: 78 RPM set
Label: Columbia
Catalog #: MM-742
Year Recorded: 1947
Conductor: Eugene Ormandy
Orchestra: Philadelphia Orchestra

Richard Strauss: Der Rosenkavalier Waltzes
Tape of Radio Broadcast (CBS)
Year Recorded: 1944
Conductor: Eugene Ormandy
Orchestra: Philadelphia Orchestra

Richard Strauss: Don Quixote, Op. 35 (Introduction)
Original Release Format: 78 RPM set
Label: Victor
Catalog #: M-720
Year Recorded: 1940
Conductor: Eugene Ormandy
Orchestra: Philadelphia Orchestra

Richard Strauss: Salome, Op. 54 (Dance of the Seven Veils)
Release Format: 78 RPM set
Label: Victor
Catalog #: 74729/30
Year Recorded: 1921
Conductor: Leopold Stokowski
Orchestra: Philadelphia Orchestra

Richard Strauss: Salome, Op. 54 (Dance of the Seven Veils)
Original Release Format: 78 RPM set
Label: Victor
Catalog #: 7259/60
Year Recorded: 1929
Conductor: Leopold Stokowski
Orchestra: Philadelphia Orchestra

Richard Strauss: Salome, Op. 54 (Dance of the Seven Veils)
Original Release Format: CD (not issued on 78 RPM)
Label: Cala CD
Catalog #: 0502
Year Recorded: 1937
Conductor: Leopold Stokowski
Orchestra: Philadelphia Orchestra

Richard Strauss: Salome, Op. 54 (Dance of the Seven Veils)
Original Release Format: 78 RPM
Label: Columbia
Catalog #: 13162-D
Year Recorded: 1947
Conductor: Eugene Ormandy
Orchestra: Philadelphia Orchestra

Richard Strauss: Tod und Verklärung, Op. 24 “Death and Transfiguration” (1st Movement)
Original Release Format: 78 RPM set
Label: Victor
Catalog #: M/AM/DM-217
Year Recorded: 1934
Conductor: Leopold Stokowski
Orchestra: Philadelphia Orchestra

Richard Strauss: Tod und Verklärung, Op. 24 “Death and Transfiguration” (1st Movement)
Original Release Format: LP (not issued on 78 RPM)
Label: RCA
Catalog #: CRM5-1900
Year Recorded: 1942
Conductor: Arturo Toscanini
Orchestra: Philadelphia Orchestra

Richard Strauss: Tod und Verklärung, Op. 24 “Death and Transfiguration” (1st Movement)
Original Release Format: 78 RPM set
Label: Columbia
Catalog #: M/MM-613
Year Recorded: 1947
Conductor: Eugene Ormandy
Orchestra: Philadelphia Orchestra

Peter Ilich Tchaikovsky: Capriccio italien
Original Release Format: 78 RPM set
Label: Victor
Catalog #: 6949/50
Year Recorded: 1929
Conductor: Leopold Stokowski
Orchestra: Philadelphia Orchestra

Peter Ilich Tchaikovsky: Capriccio italien
Original Release Format: LP
Label: Columbia
Catalog #: ML-4856
Year Recorded: 1953
Conductor: Eugene Ormandy
Orchestra: Philadelphia Orchestra

Peter Ilich Tchaikovsky: Symphony No. 4 in F Minor, Op. 36 (2nd movement)
Original Release Format: 78 RPM set
Label: Victor
Catalog #: M-48
Year Recorded: 1928
Conductor: Leopold Stokowski
Orchestra: Philadelphia Orchestra

Peter Ilich Tchaikovsky: Symphony No. 4 in F Minor, Op. 36 (2nd movement)
Original Release Format: 78 RPM set
Label: Columbia
Catalog #: M-736
Year Recorded: 1947
Conductor: Eugene Ormandy
Orchestra: Philadelphia Orchestra

Peter Ilich Tchaikovsky: Symphony No. 4 in F Minor, Op. 36 (2nd movement)
Original Release Format: LP
Label: Columbia
Catalog #: ML-5074
Year Recorded: 1953
Conductor: Eugene Ormandy
Orchestra: Philadelphia Orchestra

Antonio Vivaldi: Concerto Grosso Op. 3, No. 11 in D Minor; RV 565 (2nd Movement) Stokowski transcription
Original Release Format: 78 RPM set
Label: Victor
Catalog #: 8550-8551
Year Recorded: 1934
Conductor: Leopold Stokowski
Orchestra: Philadelphia Orchestra

Richard Wagner: Tannhäuser; Act III–Prelude
Original Release Format: 78 RPM set
Label: Victor
Catalog #: M-448
Year Recorded: 1936
Conductor: Leopold Stokowski
Orchestra: Philadelphia Orchestra

Eugene Zador: Biblical Triptych
Tape of Radio Broadcast (CBS)
Year Recorded: 1944
Conductor: Eugene Ormandy
Orchestra: Philadelphia Orchestra

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Marc Mostovoy Replies to the Facebook Posts Attacking Marcel Tabuteau

An audio interview with Joan Browne (Champie), a private Tabuteau student in the early 1950s.

A photograph of the music stand that was in Tabuteau’s private studio in Philadelphia.

An autographed photo of Marcel Tabuteau inscribed to Joan Browne Champie.

An autographed photo of Marcel Tabuteau inscribed to Vladimir Sokoloff.

Marc Mostovoy Replies to the Facebook Posts
Attacking Marcel Tabuteau

When she learned of Joan Champie’s death, and read the obituaries, Katherine Needleman, principal oboe of the Baltimore Symphony Orchestra and one of two oboe professors at the Curtis Institute of Music, posted on her Facebook page and again via video a message of outrage. Needleman’s central paragraph, in which she addresses herself directly to Marcel Tabuteau, is as follows:

“I don’t care if it was 1952 or 1954. I don’t care what you did for oboe reeds, as if anyone cares that you sometimes scraped them longer with your knife than your predecessors—what an innovation! I don’t care what you did for phrasing, and I don’t care how many (mostly men) students you inspired with your abusive teaching, which lived on for generations because they were unable to self-assess and grow past it. I don’t care about your number system. If you did not admit Joan to Curtis because she was a woman, and if you “let” her sweep your floor as a reward, this is how I remember you. *** you, Marcel Tabuteau. You know what would’ve been a real innovation that would have provided us all some benefit? Being a Very Big Fancy Man who supported women in music.

Needleman’s outrage is the result of the mention, in Joan Champie’s obituary, that Tabuteau hesitated to accept women at the Curtis Institute because 1) the likelihood of their being able to pursue a successful career was limited; and 2) because, after a successful lesson, Tabuteau “allowed her to sweep the floor.” 

Point 1 is, very obviously, one of the sad facts of orchestral life in the United States in the 1940s and 1950s, and, alas, even beyond. Conductors at that time rarely hired women oboists. The increasing presence of women in symphony orchestras in the United States, and around the world, is one of the signs of the remarkable gains made by women since the mid-twentieth century, gains akin to those that have been made in this country by other groups long dismissed or long oppressed.

Point 2, apparently troubling–although possibly the result of Tabuteau’s well-known mischievous sense of humor, needs to be understood in context. Those of us who knew Tabuteau or who knew others who knew him well, acknowledge that he could be a difficult taskmaster and act cold in lessons—not only to his rare female students, but to all of those who came to his studio. And yet most of his students remained faithful and dedicated to him because of his demonstrative artistry and the richness of his teaching. As Joan Champie herself said, after explaining to me in an interview how trying it could be to withstand Tabuteau’s sometimes severe remarks, “each lesson was a gift.” Champie was a courageous young woman whose desire to learn from an artist obviously quieted the discomfort that she felt.

What is most distressing in Needleman’s tirade is the dismissal of Tabuteau’s reed-making, which was part of his effort to achieve a kind of sound that combined the best of the French and Viennese schools of oboe-playing (a kind of sonority that Katherine Needleman herself well produces) and the dismissal of Tabuteau’s concern with phrasing, which, as it gradually infiltrated the players who sat around him, became one of the elements that caused critics such as The New Yorker’s Winthrop Sargeant to call Eugene Ormandy’s band the “Rolls Royce” of American orchestras.

Needleman’s reference to Tabuteau’s “abusive teaching” goes too far. That teaching has lived on for generations not because Tabuteau’s students “were unable to self-assess and grow past it,” but because it incorporated logical and inspiring methods of making music come alive.

I take no pleasure in refuting Katherine Needleman’s profane tirade. Nor does anyone on our board think of the bad old days of male chauvinism as the good old days. The Marcel Tabuteau First-Hand website continues to remain dedicated to promoting the musical ideas of a man who in our view had a highly positive impact on the development of musical performance in the United States during his lifetime, and during the period since his death. I ask those reading this response and my initial reply below to forward it to others who might be aware of Needleman’s Facebook attacks, so that the facts may be known.

Marc Mostovoy
Website administrator

To Katherine Needleman: A Belated Reply to
Your August 15th, 2024, Facebook Post:
“𝐎𝐃𝐄 𝐓𝐎 𝐉𝐎𝐀𝐍 𝐂𝐇𝐀𝐌𝐏𝐈𝐄.”

Katherine—your post on Joan Champie was just recently brought to my attention: https://www.facebook.com/profile/100058038401756/search/?q=joan%20champie. Having interviewed Joan last year, I thought it would be appropriate to respond. Kindly post this letter on your Facebook page and website. Thank you.

First I want to say that I wish you did have the opportunity to get to know Joan. She was a wonderful person and so inspiring. I felt privileged to have interacted with her even though it was only for a short period of time near the end of her life. Having gained insight into her relationship with Marcel Tabuteau through our conversations (including the live interview), I wanted to pass on to you what I learned from her.

As Joan pointed out to me, it’s important to understand that things were very different in her time. Viewed through the lens of today, Tabuteau’s treatment of her seems unjust. But she was a trooper and willing to accept the indignities because of the invaluable things he taught her. She felt it was well worth it as did all the other students who studied with him.

The reason Tabuteau did not like taking women students was because conductors of the major orchestras at that time wouldn’t think of hiring a woman oboist—even a Tabuteau student. Tabuteau felt putting all his time and effort into training a woman was futile because there was no career path for them, and he tried to dissuade women from taking up the instrument for their own sakes. But there were some women who wouldn’t take no for an answer, and he reluctantly taught them. They included Joan, Laila Storch, Thelma Neft, Marguerite Smith, Martha Scherer, and Marjorie Jackson. And may I point out that everyone cherished the time they spent with Tabuteau despite the rough time he gave them. He also dished out the same tough treatment to their male counterparts as you know.

Now you might ask why Tabuteau treated all his students as he did. It certainly would not be acceptable today. But that’s the way it was then. Gillet (his teacher) and many teachers of that generation practiced that method. Tabuteau continued it because that is what he knew and grew up with. The students who couldn’t take it dropped out, but those who persevered were grateful for what Tabuteau taught them. As a footnote, many of Tabuteau’s students said it was great training to go through because it prepared them for playing under the difficult conductors they encountered afterward such as Toscanini, Stokowski, Reiner, and Szell—all dictators in their own right. 

Laila Storch’s biography contains numerous tributes by his students: woodwind, string and brass players; pianists, vocalists – all attesting how important he was to their musical lives. Tabuteau gave them something special that their own teachers couldn’t. Those who learned from him can’t all be wrong in their praise. He was a giant to them.

Throughout your post, you chastise Tabuteau for his behavior, measuring it by today’s values. I ask you to please take a step back and try to see things as they were then. Also try to appreciate what Tabuteau did to advance oboe playing and for the musicianship he instilled in so many. Today (July 2nd) being his birthday, let’s grant him the credit he deserves. 

Finally, most oboists of the Tabuteau school wouldn’t agree with you in dismissing his importance in regard to reeds, phrasing, and so forth. Indeed, Tabuteau paved the way for you too, Katherine, whether or not you wish to acknowledge it. Surely, he was far from perfect, but does he really deserve the full treatment you give him? I think not. 

Marc Mostovoy

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