John Minsker

The following three letters were sent by John Minsker in reaction to an article by music critic Daniel Webster that was published in the Philadelphia Inquirer on May 14th, 1988.

The first is a Letter to the Editor, the second one is to Robert Bloom, and the third to Richard Woodhams. The full article appears below the letters.

Click the image below to view the full Philadelphia Inquirer article (pdf).

Biographies

John (Henry) Minsker (1912-2007) was among Marcel Tabuteau’s most devoted disciples.  He came to Philadelphia from his native West Virginia specifically to study with Marcel Tabuteau.  Entering the Curtis Institute in 1931, he left in 1934 to take the English horn position in the Detroit Symphony.  Two years later, with Bloom’s departure for Rochester, he returned to Philadelphia as English hornist in the Orchestra under Stokowski, for which he was the last solo chair hired by the legendary conductor. He and Bloom had developed considerable rapport when they played together in the Robin Hood Dell Orchestra (the summer incarnation of the Philadelphia Orchestra) in 1934 and 1936.  Based on those experiences, Minsker believed he knew Bloom well. The address he notes on Pine Street was where Bloom lived with his wife, Victoria Murdoch, a young harpist in the orchestra.

Minsker played with Tabuteau in the Philadelphia Orchestra from his 1936 arrival until Tabuteau’s departure early in 1954.  He found Tabuteau’s playing a source of infinite musical delight and inspiration, both aesthetically and technically, and admired the man unstintingly.  It is very likely that he was closer to Tabuteau than anyone else in the oboe section.  He continued with the orchestra until the autumn of 1959, when he decided to leave for personal reasons.  At the request of John de Lancie, he assumed the Marcel Tabuteau Chair at the Curtis Institute, where he taught from 1979 until de Lancie’s unfortunately abrupt departure in 1985. He retained extraordinary alertness of mind until his very last days and remained a staunch supporter of everything that Tabuteau and Stokowski had stood for.

Robert Bloom (1908-1994) was accepted by Tabuteau as an oboe student at the Curtis Institute with very little playing experience.  In three years, by 1930, he was already in the Philadelphia Orchestra, quite a remarkable attainment for a very young musician.  As Stokowski was dissatisfied with the incumbent English hornist, he requested that Bloom take the position.  Bloom confessed that he had had no previous experience on the instrument, but Stokowski wanted him to do so anyway.  Everything worked out superbly, and Bloom arguably became the most important exponent of the instrument in North America at the time.  His tenure in this position lasted only four seasons, 1932-1936, at which point he left to become principal oboe of the Eastman-Rochester Symphony, at the specific invitation of its conductor, Jose Iturbi. He remained in Rochester one season only, departing for New York to be principal oboe in the then new NBC Symphony under Toscanini, with whom he developed a notable rapport.

He found free-lance work more to his liking and left NBC during the war.  He became quite probably the busiest oboist in New York in this period, playing with an extraordinary variety of ensembles, including some in the popular area. Perhaps most prominent was his membership in the Bach Aria Group under Dr. William Scheide.  Here, Bloom’s work as a soloist came to the fore both onstage and in recordings, of which the ensemble made a great many.  More than anything else, this secured for him a national reputation.  He also composed, arranged and edited early music for the oboe, in addition to producing a volume of memoirs.  In his later years he also taught quite prominently at the Juilliard School, Yale University and elsewhere, producing a number of disciples. In 1988, in celebration of his 80th birthday, friends and colleagues held a commemoration for him at Alice Tully Hall in Lincoln Center, New York City.

Richard Woodhams (1949- ) longtime principal oboist of the Philadelphia Orchestra, studied with John de Lancie at the Curtis Institute, after which he was principal oboist of the Saint Louis Symphony, beginning in 1969.  In 1977, with John de Lancie’s departure from the Philadelphia Orchestra to direct the Curtis Institute of Music, Woodhams was brought to Philadelphia to fill his former teacher’s chair, which he did with considerable distinction until his retirement in 2018.  (It is a matter of likely unequalled continuity in any major orchestra that the Philadelphia Orchestra had only three principal oboists over a 103-year period: Marcel Tabuteau from fall 1915 to early 1954, his student John de Lancie from early 1954 until spring 1977, and his student Richard Woodhams from fall 1977 to spring 2018.)  From 1985 until 2021, Woodhams was also professor of oboe at the Curtis Institute of Music, as had been his teacher and his teacher’s teacher, who were also his two predecessors in the Philadelphia Orchestra, an extraordinary manifestation producing a solid and notable tradition.

Vincent J. (“Jimmy”) Abato (1919-2008) was a highly admired clarinetist and saxophonist for many years in New York City.  He played in an infinite variety of locations and in virtually every type of musical ensemble, including on television. His most notable stint was as the longtime bass clarinetist of the Metropolitan Opera.  He also was for a considerable period professor of saxophone at the Juilliard School. (N.B: not Abbato)

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Marc Mostovoy Replies to the Facebook Posts Attacking Marcel Tabuteau

An audio interview with Joan Browne (Champie), a private Tabuteau student in the early 1950s.

A photograph of the music stand that was in Tabuteau’s private studio in Philadelphia.

An autographed photo of Marcel Tabuteau inscribed to Joan Browne Champie.

An autographed photo of Marcel Tabuteau inscribed to Vladimir Sokoloff.

Marc Mostovoy Replies to the Facebook Posts
Attacking Marcel Tabuteau

When she learned of Joan Champie’s death, and read the obituaries, Katherine Needleman, principal oboe of the Baltimore Symphony Orchestra and one of two oboe professors at the Curtis Institute of Music, posted on her Facebook page and again via video a message of outrage. Needleman’s central paragraph, in which she addresses herself directly to Marcel Tabuteau, is as follows:

“I don’t care if it was 1952 or 1954. I don’t care what you did for oboe reeds, as if anyone cares that you sometimes scraped them longer with your knife than your predecessors—what an innovation! I don’t care what you did for phrasing, and I don’t care how many (mostly men) students you inspired with your abusive teaching, which lived on for generations because they were unable to self-assess and grow past it. I don’t care about your number system. If you did not admit Joan to Curtis because she was a woman, and if you “let” her sweep your floor as a reward, this is how I remember you. *** you, Marcel Tabuteau. You know what would’ve been a real innovation that would have provided us all some benefit? Being a Very Big Fancy Man who supported women in music.

Needleman’s outrage is the result of the mention, in Joan Champie’s obituary, that Tabuteau hesitated to accept women at the Curtis Institute because 1) the likelihood of their being able to pursue a successful career was limited; and 2) because, after a successful lesson, Tabuteau “allowed her to sweep the floor.” 

Point 1 is, very obviously, one of the sad facts of orchestral life in the United States in the 1940s and 1950s, and, alas, even beyond. Conductors at that time rarely hired women oboists. The increasing presence of women in symphony orchestras in the United States, and around the world, is one of the signs of the remarkable gains made by women since the mid-twentieth century, gains akin to those that have been made in this country by other groups long dismissed or long oppressed.

Point 2, apparently troubling–although possibly the result of Tabuteau’s well-known mischievous sense of humor, needs to be understood in context. Those of us who knew Tabuteau or who knew others who knew him well, acknowledge that he could be a difficult taskmaster and act cold in lessons—not only to his rare female students, but to all of those who came to his studio. And yet most of his students remained faithful and dedicated to him because of his demonstrative artistry and the richness of his teaching. As Joan Champie herself said, after explaining to me in an interview how trying it could be to withstand Tabuteau’s sometimes severe remarks, “each lesson was a gift.” Champie was a courageous young woman whose desire to learn from an artist obviously quieted the discomfort that she felt.

What is most distressing in Needleman’s tirade is the dismissal of Tabuteau’s reed-making, which was part of his effort to achieve a kind of sound that combined the best of the French and Viennese schools of oboe-playing (a kind of sonority that Katherine Needleman herself well produces) and the dismissal of Tabuteau’s concern with phrasing, which, as it gradually infiltrated the players who sat around him, became one of the elements that caused critics such as The New Yorker’s Winthrop Sargeant to call Eugene Ormandy’s band the “Rolls Royce” of American orchestras.

Needleman’s reference to Tabuteau’s “abusive teaching” goes too far. That teaching has lived on for generations not because Tabuteau’s students “were unable to self-assess and grow past it,” but because it incorporated logical and inspiring methods of making music come alive.

I take no pleasure in refuting Katherine Needleman’s profane tirade. Nor does anyone on our board think of the bad old days of male chauvinism as the good old days. The Marcel Tabuteau First-Hand website continues to remain dedicated to promoting the musical ideas of a man who in our view had a highly positive impact on the development of musical performance in the United States during his lifetime, and during the period since his death. I ask those reading this response and my initial reply below to forward it to others who might be aware of Needleman’s Facebook attacks, so that the facts may be known.

Marc Mostovoy
Website administrator

To Katherine Needleman: A Belated Reply to
Your August 15th, 2024, Facebook Post:
“𝐎𝐃𝐄 𝐓𝐎 𝐉𝐎𝐀𝐍 𝐂𝐇𝐀𝐌𝐏𝐈𝐄.”

Katherine—your post on Joan Champie was just recently brought to my attention: https://www.facebook.com/profile/100058038401756/search/?q=joan%20champie. Having interviewed Joan last year, I thought it would be appropriate to respond. Kindly post this letter on your Facebook page and website. Thank you.

First I want to say that I wish you did have the opportunity to get to know Joan. She was a wonderful person and so inspiring. I felt privileged to have interacted with her even though it was only for a short period of time near the end of her life. Having gained insight into her relationship with Marcel Tabuteau through our conversations (including the live interview), I wanted to pass on to you what I learned from her.

As Joan pointed out to me, it’s important to understand that things were very different in her time. Viewed through the lens of today, Tabuteau’s treatment of her seems unjust. But she was a trooper and willing to accept the indignities because of the invaluable things he taught her. She felt it was well worth it as did all the other students who studied with him.

The reason Tabuteau did not like taking women students was because conductors of the major orchestras at that time wouldn’t think of hiring a woman oboist—even a Tabuteau student. Tabuteau felt putting all his time and effort into training a woman was futile because there was no career path for them, and he tried to dissuade women from taking up the instrument for their own sakes. But there were some women who wouldn’t take no for an answer, and he reluctantly taught them. They included Joan, Laila Storch, Thelma Neft, Marguerite Smith, Martha Scherer, and Marjorie Jackson. And may I point out that everyone cherished the time they spent with Tabuteau despite the rough time he gave them. He also dished out the same tough treatment to their male counterparts as you know.

Now you might ask why Tabuteau treated all his students as he did. It certainly would not be acceptable today. But that’s the way it was then. Gillet (his teacher) and many teachers of that generation practiced that method. Tabuteau continued it because that is what he knew and grew up with. The students who couldn’t take it dropped out, but those who persevered were grateful for what Tabuteau taught them. As a footnote, many of Tabuteau’s students said it was great training to go through because it prepared them for playing under the difficult conductors they encountered afterward such as Toscanini, Stokowski, Reiner, and Szell—all dictators in their own right. 

Laila Storch’s biography contains numerous tributes by his students: woodwind, string and brass players; pianists, vocalists – all attesting how important he was to their musical lives. Tabuteau gave them something special that their own teachers couldn’t. Those who learned from him can’t all be wrong in their praise. He was a giant to them.

Throughout your post, you chastise Tabuteau for his behavior, measuring it by today’s values. I ask you to please take a step back and try to see things as they were then. Also try to appreciate what Tabuteau did to advance oboe playing and for the musicianship he instilled in so many. Today (July 2nd) being his birthday, let’s grant him the credit he deserves. 

Finally, most oboists of the Tabuteau school wouldn’t agree with you in dismissing his importance in regard to reeds, phrasing, and so forth. Indeed, Tabuteau paved the way for you too, Katherine, whether or not you wish to acknowledge it. Surely, he was far from perfect, but does he really deserve the full treatment you give him? I think not. 

Marc Mostovoy

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